Wednesday, January 19, 2011

A Few Words on Tragedy

Here's something I found interesting: In the Introduction before Hamlet, it says that Polonius's advice to Laertes, "This above all: to thine own self be true" is usually taken out of context and is in reality a "worldly gospel of self-interests and concern for appearances." As I thought about this, I assumed that Shakespeare would reveal the flaw behind this way of thinking and prove that characters who resort to selfishness always lose. And while this happens within Hamlet (Claudius and Polonius, for example, are consumed by self interest and ultimately die), the characters who are attempting to be selfless (Hamlet trying to avenge his father's death and Ophelia obeying the advice of her father and brother) also die and sink into a tragic ending.

So, what's the point of a tragedy? What is it supposed to teach us? It seems to me that fate is fixed within these plays and no matter the attempts of the characters, their chain of decisions will inevitably end in ruin. Does anyone have a bit more optimistic outlook?

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Oh, that is really interesting that you found that. I will admit, it is a little disappointing...seeing as I sort of have quoted that line since like 5th grade. And in response to your question, I have actually wondered the same thing. Did Shakespeare really want to teach us anything, though? Are there examples of deep morals in his other plays? He was, after all, writing to entertain people, so maybe he just wants drama?
I guess I, like you, have more of a pessimistic view of tragic works. I think that it is quite possible that Shakespeare is trying to show that all people, whether they be good or bad, will come to some sort of tragic ending. Maybe I'm wrong, but it sure seems this way in Hamlet. I also think that it is possible that Shakespeare is trying to show that no matter how good of people we are, we cannot control our fate. Maybe he was trying to show that bad things happen to good people also.
I don't know if Shakespeare was trying to make a point with his tragedies. I mean, a tragedy is just a genre where the people you don't want to die end up dieing. I think he might have made Polonius a satirical type for brown-nosing members of the court, but that he wasn't supposed to be any more worthy of death than Ophelia or Hamlet or all the other dead people.
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Lindsay Brock · 742 weeks ago

The reason The Tragedies have that title is because it is a genre of Shakespeare’s works. It is a different style in which there aren’t bunnies running through the field or a magical kiss at the end; it isn’t a Disney ending for sure.
That said, I do feel that there are valuable lessons that often can be learned from stories with unhappily ever afters. Some tales are told to help us avoid such a fate, and to show us how to avoid such an unfortunate ending.
Also, there are valuable lines and lessons along the way. Including Polonius’ line, “to thine own self be true.” (This is where I don’t necessarily agree with the belief that it is a "worldly gospel of self-interests and concern for appearances.") It can be read as that, but I also believe it can be simply be wise words from a bad source. Even Satan tells the truth sometimes. Being true to yourself is, in general, a good thing. At least that is how I see it.
I honestly don't know the answer to that question. I sometimes think that Shakespeare gets this plot going and then doesn't know what to do with his characters, so he just kills them off at the end. I think what would make them really tragic, though, is if the villains lived on, after the hero/heroines died. Hardly happy stuff, but maybe more realistic.
I think it's important to look at the standards of the day, too. Elizabethan folk were kind of bloodthirsty, or so I've been told. I mean they would go to public executions for entertainment. So the tragic ending probably didn't leave them with the same emotions as us. Food for thought.

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